Recorded while Laura was on the road, Zach is joined by Ni’coel Stark to discuss the Enneagram. Ni’coel is a corporate intelligence strategist who brings a great deal of experience into the value and use of the Enneagram. Listeners who are unfamiliar with the Enneagram will find reason to explore this ancient tool and folks who are already Enneagram fans will find fresh insights.

Laura is back from her travels and COVID has hit close to home. She is celebrating a birthday. Zach is experimenting with glass blowing, kind of, and has mastered the Rubic’s Cube. They go on to discuss if there is anything to gain from inspirational Instagram quotes. 

Zach and Laura discuss some of their favorite clients. Laura tries to convince you to listen to a different podcast. They then discuss the importance of valuing the relationship over being “right” in any disagreement. 

With Laura out gallivanting around the Northwest in her RV Zach is sharing a recording of a talk he did for ParentMap It’s full of valuable takeaways. You might want to have a notebook handy for this one. 

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Laura controls the weather and gets into a great intense conversation with her husband about switching household roles. Zach is pretty certain he is not interested in that for him and his wife. Zach is getting a week without his kids. Laura doesn’t share her sex dream. They go on to have a great conversation about defensiveness. 

Zach and Laura hop straight into a great conversation with Roger Nygard, filmmaker, author, and producer, about his latest project, The Truth About Marriage. They discuss the insights he gained while researching and creating this film and book companion. 

Zach is mayor of grouchy town but he solved a Rubik’s Cube. Laura shares her creative spellings. They go on to discuss the importance of having code language in your relationship. 

Laura is obsessed with Magnificent Sex. Zach is starting some stuff and counting cats. They go on to discuss the work of Terry Real and the impact it has in their own lives and the lives of their clients. 

Zach and Laura discuss the odd ending of last week’s show. Zach is celebrating over 1 million views on the Vanity Fair videos. They field a call from a listener about different perspectives on marijuana use.