Laura had a hard Christmas. Zach is leaning into virtual reality. They discuss the fun new games they have been playing lately.   

Zach shares how dying repeatedly in his new VR game has taught him some valuable tools for how to engage in conflict and relational failure.

He and Laura then share some New Year practices and values.

In this final episode of 2021 Laura interviews leading researcher in asexuality Anthony Bogaert, Ph.D.  

Laura is out with a migraine so Zach flies solo to interview his long-time friend Stephen James. Stephen shares some great nuggets of wisdom on both marriage and parenting. 

Both back from separate trips to Disneyland, Laura is getting ready for her 75 Hard challenge. Zach is pacing it with a 45 Medium.   

They discuss the transformative power we all possess to reframe our conversations by attributing positive motivations to our partner’s words and actions. 

Prompted from Taylor Swift’s latest single (and Laura’s love for Jake Gyllenhaal), Zach brings the topic of age differences in romantic relationships. It leads to a great conversation about power and influence. 

Zach and Laura welcome Craig Smith to discuss the hope that can come from clarifying your values and taking action to love yourself and others more. 

Zach and Laura jump right into an interview with Karen McMahon from Journey Beyond Divorce,

After some discussion of Zach’s morning routine, Laura brings up a struggle she is seeing in some couples: one or both of them not contributing to the emotional bank account. 

Zach and Laura get a chance to discuss different couple therapy models with Shane Birkel of The Couple Therapist Couch podcast.