Zach opens up about some of his struggles in this time and the importance of getting his own therapy. Laura joins him in discussing the importance of having purpose and a next.  If your “next” is to seek out a therapist. Try Better Help by visiting our sponsor at https:// trybetterhelp.com/mtr

Zach is building stuff around the house. Laura wants him to drive down and build her some planter boxes while she reads. They then address a listeners question about what to do about wanting to be helpful in every situation. 

After a couple dad jokes, Zach and Laura discuss a bit how they are dealing with working out while quarantined. They talk about order, grief, relationship roles and finding peace in this chaotic time. 

Zach and Laura discuss what Beyonce, Goonies, Tiger King, and hot tubs have in common. They go on to address a number of listener questions that have piled up in the last few weeks.