In this final episode of 2021 Laura interviews leading researcher in asexuality Anthony Bogaert, Ph.D.  

Laura is out with a migraine so Zach flies solo to interview his long-time friend Stephen James. Stephen shares some great nuggets of wisdom on both marriage and parenting. 

Both back from separate trips to Disneyland, Laura is getting ready for her 75 Hard challenge. Zach is pacing it with a 45 Medium.    They discuss the transformative power we all possess to reframe our conversations by attributing positive motivations to our partner’s words and actions.