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Marriage Therapy Radio

Four million people have listened to hard conversations about marriage. You're not alone in yours.

Zach talks with Yowei Shaw and Kyle Pulley, a married couple who make the podcast Proxy together, a show that investigates "emotional mysteries" by connecting people who feel alone in a specific conundrum with a stranger who has lived through something close to it. Yowei spent about seven years creating and hosting the NPR documentary series Invisibilia before she was laid off in 2023.

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Marriage Therapy Radio

"Your Narrator doesn't take risks. It only steps into scenes where it knows how it ends."

Ep. 443 · Yowei Shaw & Kyle Pulley

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Marriage Therapy Radio

Zach Brittle · Therapist & Host

"The relational patterns that keep couples stuck are almost never the ones they came in talking about."
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