Laura is out with a migraine so Zach flies solo to interview his long-time friend Stephen James. Stephen shares some great nuggets of wisdom on both marriage and parenting. 

Both back from separate trips to Disneyland, Laura is getting ready for her 75 Hard challenge. Zach is pacing it with a 45 Medium.    They discuss the transformative power we all possess to reframe our conversations by attributing positive motivations to our partner’s words and actions. 

Prompted from Taylor Swift’s latest single (and Laura’s love for Jake Gyllenhaal), Zach brings the topic of age differences in romantic relationships. It leads to a great conversation about power and influence. 

Zach and Laura welcome Craig Smith to discuss the hope that can come from clarifying your values and taking action to love yourself and others more. 

Zach and Laura jump right into an interview with Karen McMahon from Journey Beyond Divorce,

After some discussion of Zach’s morning routine, Laura brings up a struggle she is seeing in some couples: one or both of them not contributing to the emotional bank account. 

Zach and Laura get a chance to discuss different couple therapy models with Shane Birkel of The Couple Therapist Couch podcast. 

Zach is fretting about the sizes of circles. Laura is sniffing strangers in parks. This leads to a great discussion and exercise about finding simple pleasures in life and allowing those to ground you. They also circle back to a previous episode where they hashed out some conflict. 

Zach talks with Kristine Lilly, a USWNT legend, about what it means to be part of a team and also how to balance work and play both on the field and in a relationship. They also discuss the universal truth of how it really is the little things that ultimately yield big results.